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Syiccal
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Vet/hard mode content (pugs) & Arenas (excluding trials)
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Edited by Syiccal on August 10, 2024 7:25AM
Magplar
27%5 votes
Stam Arcanist
72%13 votes
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Soarora
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✭✭✭Magplar is good for execute damage but stamarc is still meta for the buffs it can provide and the size of beam. A magplar with jabs still relies on being in melee range and for the tank to stack things properly and not every pug tank even has chains. Stamarc can beam half the room.
PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore
- CP 2000+
- Warden Healer - Arcanist Healer - Warden Brittleden - Stamarc - Sorc Tank - Necro Tank - Templar Tank - Arcanist Tank
- Trials: 9/12 HMs - 3/8 Tris
- Dungeons: 30/30 HMs - 24/24 Tris
- All Veterans completed!
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The_Isatope8
Soul Shriven
Magplar
Pro's:
The Magplar can survive well by itself with its jabs, it has the best execute in the game by far, it can heal its allies without sacrificing too much damage, on demand minor Protection, good ulti-gen, can help tank with ranged immobilize that deals good damage and restores primary resource with its synergy. Templar is also very easy to play and has an easy rotationCon's:
Magplar is pretty much forced to be melee because of its sub-par ranged spammables, It doesn't have good sustain and it's slow, Terrible ultimate's and doesn't have anything meaningful to give to the group other than Minor Sorcery.Stam Arcanist
Pro's:
Incredible cleave, great buffs, good ultimates, relatively simple rotation, can play melee or ranged effectively, its main crux builder has execute scaling and heal components, top-tier damage, can help the tank with a DOT that pulls nearby enemies, it can apply brittle/minor vulnerability without sacrificing much damage, good sustain. It also has good ulti-gen.Cons:
Very reliant on the crux system to deal good damage and vulnerable while beaming.Conclusion:
Play stam arcanist. It just has more going for it than magplar and its better in solo content too.Options
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Syiccal
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From my perspective when I'm on my plar I feel like I have to work harder for the results, more to the rotation while trying to sustain, especially If i wear medium armour, it's a *** but manageable.
But it very survivable.
On the Arc everything is easier, lay couple of dots, flail and beam with no sustain issue, need pale order in some harder solo content that I don't need on plar really. Having Range helps though.Options
fred4
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✭✭✭Syiccal wrote: »
From my perspective when I'm on my plar I feel like I have to work harder for the results, more to the rotation while trying to sustain, especially If i wear medium armour, it's a *** but manageable.
But it very survivable.
On the Arc everything is easier, lay couple of dots, flail and beam with no sustain issue, need pale order in some harder solo content that I don't need on plar really. Having Range helps though.So I agree with what others have said and with your own assessment here. However I want to add two things:
- Flail will lose the execute component next patch.
- I run light armor on my magplar and sustain is fine. Whorl of Depths works. Don't actually use Ansuul or whatever you're running. Ghastly Eye Bowl, Thief mundus. I'm also a one and a half bar rotation kind of guy, which means I have two damage skills on my back bar and the rest are a Honor the Dead, Race Against Time and Channeled Focus. No sustain issues (also: Breton). No mobility issues. While I don't do quite as much damage as my arcanist, I'm still average in a vet trial PUG. I have also seen a magplar slay it in vSS, far ahead of all the arcanists in the trial. Don't know what their rotation was, but they did wear Whorl. Yeah, it makes sense that set would work against a dragon (as might Flame Blossom maybe), but all builds are situational to some degree. Arcanist is the most universal, but templar is decent all round as well.
PC EU: Magblade (PvP main), DK (PvE Tank), Sorc (PvP and PvE), Magden (PvE Healer), Magplar (PvP and PvE DD), Arcanist (PvE DD)
PC NA: Magblade (PvP and PvE every role)Options
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fred4
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✭✭✭P.S.: Don't think you're overpenetrating on a magplar in light armor. I know medium armor on magicka is perhaps a popular idea these days, but ... eh. A stamina arcanist has class passives and is maybe wearing Ansuul, resulting in ~5K penetration in a typical medium armor build. You would not have the same penetration on a medium armor templar, but you should match that number quite well in a light armor one. That's what you want. DDs with roughly the same penetration and tanks to match, not any DD (or tank) having a particular pen value in a vacuum.
PC EU: Magblade (PvP main), DK (PvE Tank), Sorc (PvP and PvE), Magden (PvE Healer), Magplar (PvP and PvE DD), Arcanist (PvE DD)
PC NA: Magblade (PvP and PvE every role)Options
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Zodiarkslayer
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✭Arcanist. Almost always.
As long as the Arc rotation is so easy, there is no point in using another option.
Except when you enjoy another class more and have a sizable comparative advantage in skill per class.read, think and write.In that order.
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Syiccal
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fred4 wrote: »
P.S.: Don't think you're overpenetrating on a magplar in light armor. I know medium armor on magicka is perhaps a popular idea these days, but ... eh. A stamina arcanist has class passives and is maybe wearing Ansuul, resulting in ~5K penetration in a typical medium armor build. You would not have the same penetration on a medium armor templar, but you should match that number quite well in a light armor one. That's what you want. DDs with roughly the same penetration and tanks to match, not any DD (or tank) having a particular pen value in a vacuum.
To be fair when I run light armour plar, usually in Deadly/Bahsies I use the shadow as my crit sits above 50% and I have decent pen
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El_Borracho
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✭✭✭Loved my magplar, but the stamina arc has put it on a shelf in PVE. I don't know why you would play another DD class in endgame PVE.
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